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This page is to enable Clubs, Players & Panel Umpires to put over their views & ideas etc., for discussion and then to possibly implement at the Management Meeting of the League in the future.
Though it is open to all Clubs & Players within the league, only email messages from League Registered Play-Cricket players or Officials will be accepted. Panel Umpires are also included and may give their ideas and views.
It should also be noted that messages will be viewed prior to being entered on this page, as do not want the wrong type of information to appear.
If you wish to enter your views and or ideas etc., please make sure that you enter your Name, Club, Player or Official and of course email address.
Then send via email with attachment in Word Format, or a straight forward email message to essexcricket@btopenworld.com

If you wish to make a point of view on the different subject matters, please quote the Ref. No. and it will be added under that reference.


 

Ref. 1.







 
I've just read the message regarding Ideas for discussion and think the playing condition etc seem pretty ok at the moment. Two things I find annoying a little,is (1) all the proposals to change things, which clubs make every year. Maybe things could stay the same for say 5 seasons and then change only if really warranted. (2) The marking of grounds things like Sightscreens, Roller on site, etc etc get undermarked so clubs get a lesser rating. At Hutton we have Rollers, Cover sheeting, Good Screens even a small water hog but still get marked down by some captains. If the regulations say you must have these items and they were checked by the league committee at the start of the season captains would not mark things so inconsistently after all if sightscreens are good enough they are good enough and should not change during the season.
Dave Cochrane
Hutton C.C.
Ref 2.








 
To get rid of the time issue. Fielders running through overs whilst batsmen desperately try to slow them down (long chats in-between overs, dawdling to the crease after a wicket etc) only for roles to be reversed after tea
(extra long run-ups, unnecessary field changes etc) is frankly a pantomime. The result being affected by whether tea takes 20 minutes, 25 minutes or longer in some cases. All of these should have nothing to do with league cricket.
Make the game 100 overs long. Side batting first to bat no longer than 53 overs. If they declare or are bowled out the extra overs go to the second innings.
At 1st XI level where there are panel umpires the 17 over an hour rule
should be introduced as it is in the Premier League.
Richard Whitehall, 1st XI Captain Brentwood.
These are my suggestions and not necessarily those of Brentwood CC.
Ref. 3.

 

 

 

To reward successful cricket rather than mediocre. 200 in 52 overs is only 3.88 an over and shouldn't be rewarded with 44% of the points for a win. A side who are stuck in to bat first should only be rewarded if they play well.
I suggest scrap the double batting points. Increase the points for a win batting first to 22 points. If further compensation for batting first is required then points for wickets at 3,4,5,6,7,8 & 9 (therefore a maximum of 7) when bowling second would reward sides getting close to a victory rather than batting averagely.
Richard Whitehall, 1st XI Captain Brentwood.
These are my suggestions and not necessarily those of Brentwood CC.
Ref. 4.


 
With improvements in wickets the current batting bonus point scores are too low.
How about: 120, 160, 200 & 240? It may be that due to the state of wickets, this may only be relevant in 1st & 2nd XI.
Richard Whitehall, 1st XI Captain Brentwood.
These are my suggestions and not necessarily those of Brentwood CC.
Ref. 5.




 
Recognition that taking the old ball in 2nd innings is rarely done as an attacking move by an aggressive spinner and usually because it is softer & harder to hit. I also think this, along with rushing through the overs when bowling first, is harming the development of young seamers.
New Ball both innings as in Premier League.
Richard Whitehall, 1st XI Captain Brentwood.
These are my suggestions and not necessarily those of Brentwood CC.
Ref. 6.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the playing conditions for the Essex league are just about right.
i.e. the best and most balanced teams tend to find their way to the top of the league by the end of the season, and the weaker teams end up towards the bottom.
There are a couple of suggestions that may or may not bring the league a bit more up to date.
1. No side should be allowed to bat past their 52 overs. This encourages negative cricket from poor sides.
2. In all games with panel umpires, the minimum of 17 overs per hour rule should be enforced by panel umpires.
3. The side batting first should continue to be allowed the choice of using the old or new ball. This encourages captains to use a varied attack should they wish to.
4. The points for winning a match should be the same (18 or 20) whether you bat or bowl first. The situation shouldn't happen whereby you lose the toss and consequently lose ground on other sides in your division.
5. The batting bonus points allocation should be reviewed. With higher standard pitches, 200 is now an an average score. I would suggest the markers were moved to 140, 170, 200, 230.
Oliver Peck
1st XI Captain, Upminster CC.
(my suggestions, not necessarily those of Upminster CC)
Ref. 7.

 


 

 

 

 

I am not sure what happens in 2nd & 3rd X1s who also use players as umpires but in the 4th team premier league we are now virtually playing without the LBW law. It would be an interesting comparison to take all the matches in a 1st X1 league controlled by independent umpires and compare that to what’s happening in our league this year and see the difference in the number of LBW decisions.
It is getting worse each season and in some cases there must be instructions to players before they go out to “keep their fingers in their pockets”. This is making it worse because the side fielding first often set the agenda on these decisions and on wides. The aggrieved side batting second will often react in a similar vein.
I am not sure what the answer is and some sides are better than others but unless the captains take control of this situation then what next, only catches off the middle of the bat are out!!
The problem is, it’s the Captains that are giving the instructions in the first place.
Nick Watsons’ personal view.
Hutton Cricket Club.

Ref. 8.












 
In reply to Nick Ref 7........ 
I must be unlucky 'cos I was given out LBW twice this season, once by Nick! 
I have to say that I think this season was better than last in respect to LBWs and catches behind.  Several batsmen have walked this year and I can only think of one occasion when a "plumb" LBW wasn't given. Even then this was a cock-up by an inexperienced player and the Ardleigh Green skipper has the decency to apologise - in fact, he nearly walked! 
I think the introduction of statistics on decisions given by each team would help as would an effort by players to learn the laws.  How often have people being given out LBW, come back and complained "but I was playing shot" as if this makes them immune. 
In addition, it's up to us older players to help by not putting youngsters in the position of having to umpire in pressure situations. 
Other than that I think we have to accept that bowlers will get fewer LBWs in the lower leagues than with neutral umpires. 
Jim Lynch
Hutton CC
4th XI Captain 2006
Ref.9

Re; Ref 2
I have some agreement with Richard Whitehall, however I believe that if we are a breeding ground for players trying to attain a County contract at 2nd XI or even higher, we should be playing One Day 50 Overs per Innings, to the Evening Standard Challenge Trophy Regulations.
When Premier club players play One Day cricket for the County side this is the format, we should be preparing them early so that the step-up is less.
Multiple-Day Cricket is in decline, why play it?
Terry Francis, SNEL Umpire.
These are my suggestions and not necessarily those of SNEL Umpire’s Panel

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